Sunday, April 17, 2011

Problems Pairing Pioneer Receiver Blutooth

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The biggest pro for me is the sound. My stock speakers sounded good with the factory head unit, but they sound like brand new high end speakers with the Pioneer.

A close second is the feature set. The iPod integration is the best that I saw in any unit, and it sure beats the axillary input mod kit that I was running beforehand. The sound from the iPod is great. Also keep in mind that it’s a USB input, not just an iPod input. Plug in an external hard drive or thumb drive and you’re in buisness, too. The addition of the Bluetooth connectivity was a major selling point, and it delivers a great convenience that I would really miss now that I’m used to it. I can leave my phone out of reach (in the trunk even) and I can still answer it if it rings.

The biggest con is the user interface- it does take a bit to learn the ins and outs, but once you do, very few times is it a bother (the ‘pause’ option is buried in the function submenu, which is annoying, but since the unit automatically pauses the music for incoming / outgoing calls, it’s only a problem in, say, drive thru’s).

The pros VASTLY outweigh the cons, and the price is far below what I would expect for a unit with this feature set. That gets this unit a 5 Star rating – iPod, Bluetooth, CD, HD & Satellite Radio ready- there really aren’t any features left for you to want!

This review is from: Pioneer FH-P8000BT Double-Din In-Dash CD/MP3/WMA/AAC Receiver with Built-In Bluetooth, iPod Control, and Rear USB Input (Electronics)

Recently purchased an iPhone, so i was looking to upgrade my car’s stereo to be able to both use the phone and listen to music. This unit both had ipod connectivity and bluetooth telephone(which my current stereo does not), and is also double din (as is my car). i’ve recently installed, so i’ve only had a couple days with it, so this is a first impressions review.

Install: easy and straightforward if you purchase a wiring harness specific to your vehicle (available at retailers such as walmart and crutchfield). it was installed in a 2005 scion tc.

operation: i’ll admit, this is not the most simplest of units to operate, and i have to refer to the manual frequently to learn how to perform specific functions (such as saving a pre-set radio station), which is where it lost one star for me. the multi-function dial allows for “agile” maneuverability through the unit’s controls though.

USB/IPOD: the unit’s USB connectivity allows you to control your ipod (iphone in my case) straight through the unit. allows you to search by album, artist, playlist, etc- just as you would on the ipod itself. it also has the option to change the controls back to the ipod, if thats what you’re more comfortable with. it also has an AUX input for other devices you may wish to listen to through the unit.

bluetooth telephone: i paired the unit through my phone, and that was done seamlessly. calls are clear for you, and as far as i know (only used once or twice so far), its clear on the other end as well (i’ve asked those i’ve called). the unit allows you to download your contacts from the phone to the unit itself, so you can dial straight off the unit. has recent calls, and a “speed dial” list for you to choose from, in addition to selecting any contact on your phone. has the ability to handle call waiting and refusing calls as well.

other: the unit comes with many audio adjustments (including the 7 channel equalizer- with several presets and 2 custom settings). with the proper adjustments, music sounds great through this unit. You can also “label” CDs, so the album name will display every time you insert that CD. my only complaint is that the display is TOO bright at night, but that can be remedied by the dimmer function (tho doesnt seem to work in my vehicle…not sure why yet), OR, you can turn off the illumination completely, which will re-illuminate if you change a setting (change track, volume, source).

overall, i’m very happy with my purchase and would recommend this if you’re looking for bluetooth and ipod capabilities, without going into the DVD/Navi arena. the price was too good to pass up!

This review is from: Pioneer FH-P8000BT Double-Din In-Dash CD/MP3/WMA/AAC Receiver with Built-In Bluetooth, iPod Control, and Rear USB Input (Electronics)

NOTE: I’ve owned this stereo while using the iPhone 3G, then iPhone 3GS, then iPhone 4. The comments below are in chronological order, with subsequent iOS firmware releases.

I installed this stereo to work with Sirius, an iPod through the USB/iPod connection, miscellaneous items through auxiliary input, bluetooth handsfree, and to stream audio via bluetooth with my iPhone running 3.0 firmware.

CDs and iPod audio sounds wonderful on my car’s stock speakers. To my surprise, the bluetooth audio connection sounds just as good. It was very easy to pair, once the A2DP bluetooth profile was made available for iPhone 3.0. Prior to that, pairing with my two different phones was simple. It would pick up a phone conversation as soon as one came in, switching away from whatever other input I was listening to, and then switching back to it once the call had ended – very nice. It will also continue a phone conversation from your phone to the car once you enter the vehicle, or once you exit it will continue the conversation to your phone – also very nice to not have to wait to exit/enter the car.

I see what Pioneer was trying to do with the one-button system to feel like an iPod and I can see why some people were confused, but it didn’t take very long to get used to. The display is also very nice, with indicators when bluetooth handsfree and bluetooth stereo are connected.

EDIT: I’m at the 11 month period of ownership with this stereo. In that time period, I’ve since upgraded to the iphone 3GS model, and the stereo still connects to it without any trouble. Bluetooth pairing, handsfree phone use, and audio streaming all work very well. I’ve noticed that the audio with my stock car stereo sounded better than with this stereo. I’m not sure if it’s because I need to upgrade the speakers as well, but that should be noted.

EDIT: I’ve just upgraded to the iPhone 4 running iOS 4.0. While it paired without any issues just like my iPhone 3GS had, the A2DP stereo bluetooth profile does not seem to be recognized. I’m currently listening to music off my iPhone using the USB connection, but hope to get the A2DP wireless bluetooth profile working with some fiddling.

EDIT: You can stop driving yourself crazy trying to get this stereo to work with your iPhone 4. There is a deeply documented issue with Bluetooth on the iPhone 4. I can’t post the link here, but just search the Apple support forums for Bluetooth muffled, and you’ll find related info. Bluetooth devices are just not pairing properly with iPhone 4.

EDIT: I’m on iPhone 4 iOS 4.1 with zero improvement with A2DP stereo bluetooth profile. I’ve contacted Pioneer requesting the latest firmware for this stereo, but I’m not holding my breath.

EDIT: I’m still on iPhone 4, but now with iOS 4.2.1. With every software release, I’m hopeful that A2DP stereo bluetooth will again magically work. Unfortunately, it still doesn’t work with iOS 4.2.1 on my iPhone 4. The wireless handsfree profile pairs just fine, though.

I need to mention one oddity, and it’s that the stereo will sometimes just shut itself off out of nowhere. This happened maybe a dozen times so far, and I’ve yet to figure out why. I can usually just switch back to the desired input and it starts playing again, but a couple of times I had to park and completely stop power to the car.

For sirius users, do not lose the remote control if you plan on storing saved channels! The manual states that you must use the remote control in order to store sirius stations. Also the display when listening to sirius radio is odd. You can view three lines of text. Line one consists of the input, band, and preset number. Line two is the sirius channel number. Line three is your choice of artist, song, channel name, genre, etc. The odd part comes when you want to see the time. If you press the time/toggle button, you now have only TWO lines of text – the first and third. The middle is gone and the third displays time. Basically, this means that you can’t view the artist and time at the same moment – stupid. I usually leave the time display enabled, but find myself toggling when I want to see the name of the artist playing.

On another note, I’m now at the 2 year ownership period of this stereo, and it still works very well. Buttons are still responsive, auxiliary input and satellite radio connections are strong and come through properly. The plastic screen bezel has some noticeable scratches, even though I’m gentle with it – I figure this is unavoidable.
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